"Then you start to think about, OK, how are we going to get out of this?"

Dan Tubb on Hearts of Oak Podcast
The Roots of Brokenomics and Seeking a Way Out of the Debt Pit

📻https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/e/dan-tubb-the-roots-of-brokenomics-and-seeking-a-way-out-of-the-debt-pit/