Dave Kleiman (*28) became a law enforcement officer after his service in the US Army. Later he worked in computer forensics expert. (*29) If you look up his credentials and certifications in this field, they are very impressive. The list of accomplishments is long! Dave (*30) could also be found on the Cryptography mailing list, but he clearly had different ideas (*31) than the Cypherpunks as we can see from his public performances. (*32) https://bico.media/39062d9fb3df9054e4df8321694e631ac5b653d15e122524fddb6c7f7741ff1b?fbclid=IwAR36h1gJDTxMw43BUpGmjm-vTelIPryKtUSFi2pzQ9b2YLK4WjXtPAM8hmo