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Jon Doe (Pureblood)
One of the first rules of dealing with a pandemic is, DO NOT vaccinate during a pandemic!. Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, DVM, a world renound virologist and vaccine expert explains why.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/quot-vaccine-disaster-ahead-quot-please-watch-amp-share_yaxWzeJJ8Few7i8.html
Craig Olfsen
Does anyone else read it from the side of Looney Land?
2 legs, Johnson & Johnson.
Man's skin peeled off. A penis is called Johnson in British slang, and a foreskin peels off.
It's like they try catch you with these ones.
Hari Dira
You guys are seriously concerned by one case over tens of thousands where nothing happened (which btw is statistically not enough to prove anything), and yet able to ignore the confirmed statistics of about 1% COVID death rate (much worse in the majority of developing nations) and a vaccine efficacy rate of over 95%?
The covid mortality rate is 0.013% in the US (500k deaths at 360 million people.)
That's hardly 1%

According to WHO numbers of those who get infected, and not just the total population. The survivability rate is 99.7%. that is to say 3 of every 1000 who catch it will die from it.

Where did your 1% rate come from? Certainly not CDC or WHO numbers.
Hari Dira
You're right. I meant to say 0.1% *not* 1%.
You're overestimating the deaths by a magnitude of 10. It is 0.013%. Not 0.1% and not even 1%. It's a bit over one thousandths of a percent of the US population.
Hari Dira
You're right. I meant to say 0.1% *not* 1%.
Do take it. I absolutely encourage all people who want to take it to take it al Ε“utrance! Do not make it mandatory, or make me walk around with papers. Go on and take it. No problem.

You're the Guinea pig.
Hari Dira
I'm curious to know though at which point one ceases to a Guinea Pig :)
SRSLY? If you willingly take experimental therapies. Yeah you're a test subject. I just want to refuse it. Your side is by making my taking this gene therapy mandatory or I cannot travel shop, or take a crap at a gas station is the problem.
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SRSLY? If you willingly take experimental therapies. Yeah you're a test subject. I just want to refuse it. Your side is by making my taking this gene therapy mandatory or I cannot travel shop, or take a crap at a gas station is the problem.
I get that. I wasn't trying to win an argument or make anyone look bad. I was genuinely curious to know at what point exactly it ceases to be an experiment anymore to you, because vaccines have been around for generations already. We already have a very good understanding of their mechanics and how they work. We're not talking about a mysterious, unknown matter that fell from the sky. So now a new vaccine has been developed, clinically tested on animal, then on volunteers, then has been on the field for months and protection against mortality from COVID outweighs any suspected negative side effects. At what point are we supposed to stop calling it an "experiment" and start dealing with it as something "tested"?
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What about "my side"? I'm not sure if there were typos in there because the sentence didn't sound right to me, but if what you're trying to say is that I'm supporting the mandatory regulations, then you're putting words into my mouth. Nothing I said even remotely implies that, and indeed, I'm against the regulations (this is something I know we both agree on, which is what matters the most too. Whether I choose to take the vaccine or not is my own personal business that doesn't affect you).
Juan πŸš«πŸ’‰ Redhawk πŸ₯„β˜•πŸ¦ΊπŸ§¨β›οΈπŸ§‚πŸ’‘πŸ’‘πŸ’‘πŸ’‘
SRSLY? If you willingly take experimental therapies. Yeah you're a test subject. I just want to refuse it. Your side is by making my taking this gene therapy mandatory or I cannot travel shop, or take a crap at a gas station is the problem.
Also you have to understand that refraining from taking the vaccine is also a choice that carries its own risk. COVID is not another regular flu. It is probably tue that in principle, injecting your body with alien material comes with some risk, yet on the other hand, leaving your body vulnerable to another new material (COVID, which again, is a new breed of disease so a new kind of material that is going to enter your body and mess with it) also carries its own baggage of risk. It is not as safe and risk-free of a choice as you might think by just focusing on protecting your body from the vaccine proteins.
I got COVID since half a year and my smell and taste have been messed up ever since - maybe for good. And this is only what I know - Only God knows what other unseen damages have been caused to my body (such as heart and lungs).
Then again, I'm all against the regulations. Just a little puzzled why leaving your body vulnerable is put as a "risk-free choice" when it really isn't.
You are correct covid-19 is not an ordinary flu it is a cold virus. There are about 500 cold viruses that we know of this is another one added to the mix and our bodies fight them in basically the same way. There was never any need for any sort of treatments because most people get over a cold in three days as they get over this. This is more propaganda and fear-mongering than anything
Hari Dira
Also you have to understand that refraining from taking the vaccine is also a choice that carries its own risk. COVID is not another regular flu. It is probably tue that in principle, injecting your body with alien material comes with some risk, yet on the other hand, leaving your body vulnerable to another new material (COVID, which again, is a new breed of disease so a new kind of material that is going to enter your body and mess with it) also carries its own baggage of risk. It is not as safe and risk-free of a choice as you might think by just focusing on protecting your body from the vaccine proteins. I got COVID since half a year and my smell and taste have been messed up ever since - maybe for good. And this is only what I know - Only God knows what other unseen damages have been caused to my body (such as heart and lungs). Then again, I'm all against the regulations. Just a little puzzled why leaving your body vulnerable is put as a "risk-free choice" when it really isn't.
Everyone knows what an inoculation is, and what a vaccine is. They use exposure to living disease, and that is an inoculation. A vaccination is exposure to the dead pathogen. This is neither you're not exposing yourself to covid-19 alive or dead. The reason why vaccinations against the flu and cold viruses have never worked is because there are so many different viruses and they are dead until they enter your body. This is mRNA gene therapy. This changes your genetics to make your white blood cells attack spike proteins that your body has created. The antigens that it is making your body create also have a history of causing sterility in both male and female test subjects. I don't want to become sterile so I will not take the shot.
I read that it takes about a decade normally for a vaccine to make it to market. Years and years of clinical trials over clinical trials. Besides, they NEVER came up with any vaccine targeting RNA viruses. Besides, in this molecule of virus, there are many, many more strands of diseases that were also found. WE KNOW it is not a 'normal' virus. Common.. what do you really expect from such vaccine??? Gosh people are so dumb to jump in taking these vaccines. I have friends that I used to think they were smart but now I realise that they are dumber than I thought... BY A LOT! Anyway I will shut up. I really feel bad for those that took it.