What do you think the reason for this is?

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Dimitri
MGTOW? LOL. How could you be that stupid? The system wants White men such as yourself to not have any children, so it can replace you with obedient migrants. Fight back. Marry, and have plenty of children. You won't find life purpose otherwise.
That's pretty simple. I am a lone Wolfe, always have been. I'm not interested in having a relationship nor sex. I'm not gay nor am I asexual, I'm just not willing to deal with other people, that's all it is.

My only purpose in life is, to stay out of other peoples lives. I enjoy being on my own and being able to get rid of people, by a flick of a switch. Long live the internet!
Purposelessness
Mgtow is simply the modern 'confirmed bachelor' I don't see why those who choose to eschew the recognised social norms deserve the level of condescension and hate, that many seem to throw at them.

Part of me wonders if the haters are simply unhappy with their own situation? maybe trapped in a loveless relationship? or maybe desperate for a 2.4 they cant seem to find? either way, much of tye ire comes across as projection, maybe even insecurity about their own masculinity.. Who knows, but it is pretty purile regardless.
Where do we start?
The breakdown of the nuclear family.
Too little male influence given to boys and young men - I speak as someone who guides a friend's son.
Too much maternal influence - boys wrapped in cotton wool, who have never been bloody or muddy.
Easy access to porn on the internet - it took effort to buy porn mags.
Misandry from feminists and the establishment as a whole.

The list goes on.
In my opinion, I think the testosterone leve decline in young men is due to chronic masturbation and lack of physical exercise. There could be more factors involved. But those are the two that I can think of.
I don't know my social circle all works out and can lift pretty heavy (I'm on the low end and I'm doing 8 reps at 185 lbs easy for deadlift).

Maybe porn but aside from that I don't see what else could cause it. Also how trustworthy are these studies? Check the testoserone of the guys I hang out with and compare it to the 2000 average.

Also, are they counting femboys on HRT in their studies? That would also screw the results
Flavio Bagioli
Post modern food and lifestyle
I think it's lack of exercise and drinking alcohol and eating food in plastic containers.
Alex Vincent
“Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.”
Bertrand Russell
Alex Vincent
I think it’s chemical and psychological. The powers that be are putting estrogenic chemicals in the food and water. Testosterone is also affected by psychological factors. Feelings of triumph make testosterone sky rocket which in turn boosts ambition to be even more successful. Failure makes testosterone plummet which reduces motivation and creates more failure. It’s nature’s way of making successful men want to pass on their success genes and unsuccessful men quit. I think men in general see nothing worth striving for these days. The only thing that gives the average guy a testosterone surging sense of victory is video games. How pathetic.
Soy boys on the rise 😅
Stephen Hooton
As sort of a blanket statement, thousands of years ago, we had to kill wooly mammoths with slingshots and build our own mud huts. Now we sit in cubicles and are afraid of spiders.
Irek Blair
Food industry!!!
Angry Bolt Face
If I'm being honest, if I knew then what I know now I would not have gotten married. While I did get lucky (so far) with my marriage, I know the system is absolutely rigged against me and I'd be destroyed if she simply decided she wanted to.
Aye it has become a very real dilemma. Where once a man was concerned with providing a stable environment.. Roof over the head, food on the table, and able to wholly focus on productive things like a consistent, and well disciplined upbringing for our children..

today men walk a knife edge, risking health, wealth, and sanity, on the ever increasing probability, you partner up with a women programmed by the entitlement culture, a ticking time bomb, empowered by an establishment that fully supports.. even endorses.. their narcissism.

On paper mgtow is currently the most rational route for young men to take, however they do still need to maintain their health, and a level of basic fitness. Things will change eventually, and men have the benefit of no reproductive expiry date.. beyond allowing their testosterone to fall through the floor.

If you can mature, rather than age, you can remain patient for a return to sanity.. If not? Well, men seem to manage regret well. sanity, peace and quiet, health.. These are things we can happily live with, and require very little.

I married a narcissist, someone who can never say sorry, or accept responsibility for their wrongs, she we divorced, I was lucky to have so much time with my children, because it was convenient for her to allow it. But is spent the better part of 12yrs biting my tongue, and taking knocks like a pro, as needed, just to preserve my relationship with them.

They are both grown up, living their own lives, on their own terms, and I couldn't be happier. They are happy, which makes me happy, and the cherry in top.. I don't have to deal with my ex any more.. Bliss!

Its a risky path you walk, but if you can thread it, its worth the price, you may have found a safe lass, but you are right.. Luck has a lot to do with it.. Which is why I would never give stick to a person who chooses not to gamble..

I wish you well, and hope your luck holds o7
Dom
I don't know my social circle all works out and can lift pretty heavy (I'm on the low end and I'm doing 8 reps at 185 lbs easy for deadlift). Maybe porn but aside from that I don't see what else could cause it. Also how trustworthy are these studies? Check the testoserone of the guys I hang out with and compare it to the 2000 average. Also, are they counting femboys on HRT in their studies? That would also screw the results
True, and the only people who tend to get their testosterone checked, are those struggling to have children, or have other medical reasons.. Like transition.

Trust is a good point you make, who benefits from pushing a low t score narrative, who does it effect negatively. There is a war on masculinity after all.
This is fake news. No such source. In fact many studies from different countries showed a decrease of about 35% since aroubd 1980, and about 20% since year 2000 for people of the SAME AGE.
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